i think for people who are concerned about human rights, people are concerned about the united states reputation as a beacon to preserve human rights this is looking like a pretty amateurish move. it's quite troubling, actually. >> what your cover story suggests is this has implications almost beyond the sqrepisode because of the relationship being so much more integrated between china and the sthust >> yeah, there is no going back. back even a generation ago, china was not a major player on the world stage. it wasn't the second largest g.d.p., so if china decided that it want to be a bit more her metic or pull back, the stakes weren't as big. now the stakes are gigantic. it's not only the world's largest country, but it's much more forceful on the global stage. this has far reaching ramifications, much more possibly than teenman square. >> the recent scandal seemed to point to weaknesses within the chinese political system right at the very top, don't they? >> right. that's what the chinese government is very concerned about. the chen case are disruptive to the narrative. this is an